#721 Implementing the Claymore 3-Step Battle Plan: Answering Your Questions!

Your first 10 minutes each morning are already shaping you. The only question is whether they belong to your phone or to God. Jack sits down with Jeff to answer your questions. We hear from parents, mentors, and young men who feel the urgency of the moment and want a simple way to get their hearts back, find a wife or learn how to better love the one they have, and finally, how to restore the culture and take back their country.

We break down how the Claymore 3-Step Battle Plan Outline and the Claymore Battle Plan Handbook work together, why the plan moves from the individual human heart to marriage and family, and then outward into culture and civic life. If you’ve been looking for Catholic discipleship that’s practical, repeatable, and built for real life, we explain the “Claymore 10-Minute Morning Ritual” (knees before the phone) and the 10-5 rhythm that helps you build momentum without getting overwhelmed.

We also go straight at the hard stuff: anxiety, loneliness, and addiction in a porn saturated culture. We talk about why “temptation is not a sin,” how to turn temptation into an invitation to pray, and why nobody wins this battle alone. Mentorship, walking with brothers, and the grace of the Sacraments are key themes throughout, along with one guiding rule for sharing faith at home: never impose, but always propose what is true, good, and beautiful.

If you want the overview, practical starting steps, and a way to pass this on to your family, social circle or your parish, listen through, then subscribe, share this with a friend, and leave a review so more people can find the path.

Email Jack with questions and comments to answer and discuss on future episides! jack@ClaymoreMilitesChristi.com

Transcript

Welcome And Listener Questions

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Welcome to the Claymore Become Who You Are podcast. I'm Jack Rigrid, your host. I am very grateful to be with the president of the John Paul II Renewal Center, the catalyst behind all the things that we do, real evangelists, and I'm excited to have him on here, especially as we get deeper and deeper into Claymore Militus Christi, Soldiers for Christ. He's a real warrior. Jeff, good to have you here. Well, thank you. I never heard you say so many nice things about me. I usually don't, but but I feel them. I'm just like a man. I cannot express myself until I'm until you know I'm I'm on air. And then the truth comes out, my friend. The truth comes out. Thank you. So what we're doing, it was so wonderful. So Jeff and I have been speaking to different groups about uh Claymore, the beauty behind their battle plan, and uh and we always ask for questions. Every podcast we do, I always have it in the show notes. Please fire in your questions, your comments. We want to interact with you, and we want to make make you very clear on how how you step into this program, how to get your heart back, marriage and the family back, how to get the culture back. And it's such a beautiful apostolate that we have. And there's questions to come up, especially from new people who haven't dove into this yet. So it's wonderful, uh Jeff, to have you here. I know people have fired in some questions to you, so I'm gonna turn it over to you.

SPEAKER_01 1:20

All right. Well, the the maybe the the way to start is rather just explain, because I think there's some confusion here, is the how the Claymore Battle Plan Handbook and the Claymore Battle Plan Outline, how do they interface together? How should those work together?

SPEAKER_00 1:38

Yeah, so that's a great question. So I will put the the Claymore outline, which I have here on my desk. I'll hold it up, but I'll put it actually behind us, uh Jeff, when we actually launch this. This can be accessed on our website. It's six-pager, and the and the neat thing about it is it gives you the overview. It gives you the whole battle plan, kind of where we're cut we're starting at and where we're going. And so it kind of settles everybody in, Jeff, so that when you start to read the Claymore Battle Plan Handbook, which fills in the content of that, you kind of have an overview already. I really think it's like an introduction to a book, you know, they outline. It's saying, hey, you know, this is the problem. And it's a three-step battle plan and it's in that outline and it's done on purpose. This is how I started uh with this whole apostolate when we were framing it, Jeff, because I was out speaking to these young people. I'll back into this, but it was so exciting to have these guys lean in. And I needed a structure for them because I would leave, you know, and they had all these questions, so I would frame it, and then I tell them, hey, when I come back, this is what we're going to be doing. Well, I realized at the end we are not big enough, Jeff, the uh John Paul II Renewal Center. And we wanted to hand this to everybody so that everybody can do this. And again, we'll get we'll back into this. And so the content is in here, and just to finish with the handbook itself, which fills in the content, it's done in 52 short acts and one for each week of the year. And it's such a beautiful, easy, simple way to get into. Of course, you know, we're we're really battling the powers of evil out there. So when I say it's easy, it's not easy to do battle, but it's easy to see it. And it comes in, and I'll just finish this kind of overview, Jeff. It's a three-part battle plan. And the reason for that is, first of all, it always starts in the individual heart. When the individual heart gets twisted and distorted, you can't do anything until we align the individual human heart, right, with Christ and start to open that heart up and get the heart right. Then the next step is this love story that we all feel within our hearts, you know, and we express that in many ways, and we're called to be a gift out into the world. You know, it's not brain surgery, be filled with divine life and love, and then go out and be that love in the world, right? Love God, love the neighbor. Well, the biggest expression, the fullest expression of that, of course, is marriage in the family. And so we have to understand marriage in the family. We have to get that back because so much dysfunction that uh with young people, old people, is because they they they grew up in this in this dysfunctional family structure. And so those are the first two steps, right? The human heart, marriage and the family. And then what naturally ripples out from there is we bring this into the culture and into to even into the government. The government, uh and there's the bookend on this, the government, the laws, the legislator should be a reflection, reflecting back to help the human heart and assist marriage in the family. When it doesn't do that, you have two opposing forces and the culture starts to disintegrate. And that's what we're seeing today.

SPEAKER_01 4:42

Right. But so the the book really addresses that first uh part is how to get the human heart untwisted.

SPEAKER_00 4:52

No, well, it does. So the the book is done in in uh four sections. The first section of the book, uh, which is a pretty decent sized section, is getting the human heart back. Okay. And that's it, that's always leaning into marriage in the family almost right off the bat. The second whole section of the book is about marriage and the family, but taking the human heart into it doesn't drop the human heart off but winds it into this. And then the third part of the book is social political activism. How do you go into the culture and make sure that you don't have laws uh that are pushing back and destroying the human person again and also breaking down marriage in the family? So that's the wide angle of this. And then we have a conclusionary section in there too. So the book is total, it's a total formation system, Jeff. The battle plan is a total battle. It's like a general. The general knows in his mind what he's gonna do, right? He, you know, you lay out the battlefield, then the soldiers come in and they're getting pieces of this, but the whole thing is framed. If you stay at it long enough, if you go through the ranks and you become the general, you start to see the whole picture. Well, we do that very quickly for these guys to help them really see the big picture of what's going on in the world.

SPEAKER_01 6:07

Okay. As you know, a number of the people that have purchased the book and we get requests from our parents, and they're buying it either for their son or son-in-law that may and more likely be a little bit lukewarm about their fate. And how what do you think is the best way for those parents to share the handbook and the battle plan with their uh son or son-in-law?

The 10 Minute Morning Ritual

SPEAKER_00 6:36

Yeah, that's a great question. And and that's really the goal of this. The the goal of this is to empower each person, man, woman, each person, to be able to bring this into their family structure, into their social structures. What this is, Jeff, is not just Jack and Jeff, but the John Paul II Renewal Center. We become the the the catalyst to help frame this all out and and teach and be with people. But at the end of the day, it's gonna take a thousand. In fact, it's gonna take millions of these lights, as Christ would say. Take your light from underneath the bushel and shine it forth. And we're helping them to do that. So that's a great question with parents and grandparents, and this started. This is how good that question is, right? It started because when I was presenting parish missions all over the country, people would get all excited. But here's the thing. First of all, they weren't formed correctly, so they they they didn't have the vocabulary sometimes to express what they felt in their heart. Now they connected, say, during these parish missions, these uh programs that that you and I have presented, Jeff. And but then they turn around and they go, now what do I do? How do I get this down to answer your question? How do I get this down to my family? So I would leave there and you would leave, and we'd go, Oh my gosh, you know, these people are leaning in, man, they're getting it, they're feeling this. But then, you know, how do I take this to my wife? You know, uh, how do I take this to my children? How do I take this within my social circle? Because if we don't, they realize the culture's actually coming down and this oppressive force that they feel, right? So this is what it does, it empowers them. So how do you do it? You have to step into this and start yourself, make sure you're formed. And it's very, very uh simple again. So there's just two asks of this whole thing. This is how you start. The first thing is the Claymore 10-minute morning ritual. And really, what that is, and everybody needs to do this, Jeff. I mean, it's just put that phone away, stop all the outside stuff coming in first thing in the morning, get into prayer. We we call it knees before the phone. Now we're talking to young guys here. Some old guys can't get down to the floor. We understand that. But knees before the phone, I've been doing this for years. I love it. It's just so empowering, so peaceful. You know, you get that peace right away. And so that's how you start. It takes you 10 minutes, you get to wait, wait, let me just finish this. So you get this vertical alignment. And then the second ask is to read one of these acts out of the book at least once a week. Right. And this will start to lay the format. When you do that, you within a couple of, let's call it, you know, you know, week, 10 days, maybe a little longer, of going to your knees, reading those acts. That's all it's going to take because you'll start to want to share that with somebody. You'll see your heart will move and you'll want to share it. So the way you do it to answer your question specifically, I say to my son, Jake, my son's name is Jake. I say, Jake, I've been reading this incredible book. I've been doing these series of prayers. Takes me 10 minutes a day. And man, something is really good. I really want to share this with you. I want you to have this. And so uh here it is, right? And you gift it basically to them. Most of the time, look at John Paul would say this never impose, always propose what's true, good, and beautiful to the next person. And so I you have to be, you have to discern this yourself. If you have somebody that's an atheist in your family and and and you know he may not be ready for this or she may not be ready for this, that's where that 10-minute claymore uh morning ritual comes in. I'm praying for them. I'm letting our blessed mother come in, I'm letting the Holy Spirit come in and soften their hardness of heart. So prayer starts first. I'm praying for that person. If he's a hardcore case, right? I'm praying for that person first. And then when the time is right, I say what I just told you. On the other hand, if you have a 17 or 18-year-old son, they're already feeling this pornographic culture we're in. They're feeling anxiety, sometimes depression, sometimes loneliness, all kinds of different things. You have to know your situation and that particular person. So you approach them that way. Just say, I've been, you know, I've been on this Claymore battle plan program a little 10 minutes a day. Do you have 10 minutes a day, man, to to really get your heart back, to find some peace, some joy, the awe and wonder you know, of this. And it's it's incredible. And I want to share this with you. And it's as simple as that, Jeff. Uh, that's how it starts.

SPEAKER_01 10:53

Yeah. Right. In but the key, I think, of what you said is that it and that's what I is has to start with the parent before they can just hand this off and expect uh nirvana.

Prayer First Then Gift It

SPEAKER_00 11:08

Yeah, yeah, definitely. That's a great question, a great way to put it. And it's not just from a parent to a child, right? This is my friends, you know, this might be my my uh you know, my my brother who lives in Colorado. This so there's all kinds of people there, right? So this isn't just a parent-child thing. This can go out and really pray on it and and and allow God to put the people on your path. It might be at work. My son is finding a lot of people at work. You know, he's wearing this Claymore Militus Christi wristband, and people just ask him about it, and he tells them the story that you and I are just talking about, and they go, Wow, I'd like to read that. Jake, my son Jake just ordered 10 books, and and it's not just a book, just to let everybody know, this is a battle plan. It comes with, if you order through us, it comes with a miraculous, blessed, miraculous medal, a wristband, some prayer cards. It comes with the outline, the book. So, so you have a real battle plan in your in your hands. And when you present it to somebody, it's not just the book. In other words, it's not just information. This connects to the heart, Jeff. So this is the DNA that flows within us. You know, it's not you can Google information. When you get in touch with this, it moves something in your heart. It's the gospel, right? And it will move. But it's done in a language that is set for these times and to face the battles we we do. But it's an it's the beauty of this story that's come and been handed down to us all these years. So uh yeah, you have to do it first. I would say don't attempt to share anything until you know what you're sharing, until you see the how it it touches your heart. Because now you go from how am I going to do this to say I cannot wait to share this with you. It's a it's a different process.

SPEAKER_01 12:50

Right. I and I think one of the key things you said, and we all see it, is the anxiety in so many people that that actually they're looking for something. You know, there's some people that are not looking for anything, but there are a lot of people looking for something.

SPEAKER_00 13:05

Do you know uh there are 70% of Americans today, 70% are on some type of prescription drug. The top two are for anxiety and pain, some type of opioid. Well, what are they doing? You know, they're trying to here in a nutshell, and this is what happens with so many young people, they're they were feeling this, this really oppression of evil, and it's something that they go, oh my gosh, what is going on out there? And their heart was was created good. So what they do though, they're feeling this anxious, something's wrong. It's called cognitive dissidence, it's a psychological term for that, when your heart's not aligning with what you're finding out your experience of life. Well, here's what the culture tells you, Jeff. This is so important. The culture tells you something's wrong with your heart, your anxiety that you're feeling, your even your darkness that you're feeling, that's something wrong with you. The reality is the mental illness, in most cases, the mental illness is out there and it's trying to get in here. And so what we're what we make very clear is when these people, when people in general, and I'm generalizing here, right? When you're trying to numb your your your pain, when you're trying to deaden your heart, you know, what you're doing is you're allowing this outside influence to come in. When you realize, whoa, I was right. The truth really exists, goodness exists, beauty really exists, and now I can stand for it. I start to see it, Jeff. It's so exciting that I get excited right here just talking about it, you know.

SPEAKER_01 14:37

So the other thing is when you try to share it with somebody, maybe like a son-in-law, who is is not Catholic and has shown some mild interest in the Catholic faith. I guess from what to answer your first question, it would be a similar approach.

unknown 14:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:56

Yeah.

Anxiety Culture And Cognitive Dissonance

SPEAKER_00 14:56

And you have to discern that person. You know, it's not a cookie cutter, but God will put these people on your path. And the time will be right. So the first thing, again, you do it yourself, you get on your knees. And what you're gonna find, Jeff, is that here, everybody listening is on the eight team. Let's put them all on the eight team, Jeff. Let's there's an urgency to this, right? We all feel it. So I we call it the 10-5 program. So 10 minutes on your uh on your knees in the morning, but the other thing is five minutes every night or every day, but I like to do it at night. Read one act from that from that book. Again, 52 acts are very short because a lot of young guys don't like to read. And they'll say, I don't really read books, and you go, Well, then I got a book for you, because this is literally two or three pages, sometimes four, and it's got Q ⁇ A after it. And so you can read it very quickly, and it'll touch your heart because it's bringing you the the the first act, Jeff, what sort of tale have we fallen into? That's what these young guys, when we meet them, it's very exciting because they know something's wrong. And you say, hey, dude, what kind of tale is this? What kind of story have we fallen into? And we cracked that open, you know, and so it's yeah, it's very exciting. So you have to discern that yourself and say, where are they? But once you start that, think about this. In 52 days, if you did this for 52 days, you would have got through the whole battle plan. You go from the human heart, marriage and the family, you understand culture, school, self-education, the importance of work, the importance of going out and making sure that you attend school board meetings, all these different things, right? But the it's you're gonna meet saints in there, et cetera. So by the time you're starting to talk to your son-in-law, there'll be something he says. This is what happens, Jeff. Something he says, or a conversation you have, and you'll go, you know what? I was I was reading the Claymore Battle Plan Handbook, and it mentions that in there. I'm gonna get you a copy, and then you explain it to him. But it'll naturally come up. If you're praying for it and God wants this to happen, the Holy Spirit will give you the opening, but you gotta, you gotta be ready. You know, it always happens, Jeff, in business, in life, that it's the person that's prepared, right, finds the opportunities. And that's what God does. You know, He He fills us with the gospel. Once I have the gospel, everything else starts to line up. So I gotta do my I gotta do my little part, 10-5, right? Ten minutes on the knees, five minutes, and then you something will come up. It'll come up.

SPEAKER_01 17:16

One one other question, this is really my last question, I think that w our uh people are gonna run into on a regular basis, is mo most of the young men today are facing some type of addiction, whether that might be gambling, might be alcohol, might be tobacco, but in in a lot of cases also more than one caffeine. I don't think which is the biggest one. So how how uh you know, this isn't like it those are hard things to overcome. And maybe you could just speak to for a minute. Sometimes you even need per outside professional help, but maybe you could speak for a minute about that and and the importance of confession in the Eucharist.

The 10 5 Program Habit

SPEAKER_00 18:03

Yeah, well, first of all, uh you have to understand the story. And so that's what we always do. You gotta lay out, Jeff, a model. So if a young guy comes in and he's trying to white knuckle it, he knows he shouldn't be looking at pronouncing. And these aren't only young people, are they? I mean, you know, in general, if I'm speaking to a hundred men, some young, some old, whatever, I mean, they've all been touched by this. It's it's it's not just the young man's game, but the but the young men, their innocence has been stolen from them. This is the difference. At least us, we we experience some innocence, some time of innocence. And then when you when you get into, say, pornography or something like that, you know the contrast. These these young guys, it's not just what's happening to them. I always tell them, I say, your heart was made for good, and this is not your fault. Your innocence was robbed from you at a very early age. Your moral imagination has been twisted and distorted. So you're like the proverbial frog, Jeff, these poor guys. They've been sitting in there in this toxic culture with that frog, and the heat slowly turning up to the point where they don't even know anymore we've normalized sin and they don't know how to get out. So that's the problem. And I'll just touch on this because it's so important in that Claymore 10-minute morning ritual. The second part of that is praying with temptation. This is so important to a man. So once he understands that temptation is not a sin, I'm tempted all the time. And we show you how to use temptation as an invitation to pray. And and so instead of trying to be good and white knuckle it, well, what happens if you finally indulge, right? I mean, Satan is very strong, and your Eros, you know, your your desires are when they're twisted and disordered. That's these aren't trivial desires, Jeff, or superficial wants. This is the this is the atomic energy of your soul, right? It's supposed to be finding the truth in love. When that gets twisted, that's powerful. That's why you see pornography has such a power. So we show them how to get out. But one more thing. I started out saying you have to show them the model. You have to start showing them the model. In other words, if I try to get out of this and I don't know what it looks like to get out, so we have to show them that. What is the beauty of love? What is the beauty of truth, goodness? What is the what is the beauty of beauty itself? It's all around us, right? So we have to show them that model. And then, second thing, I don't just hand you this, Jeff. I walk with you. This is so important. You know, these guys need somebody to walk with them. You may not feel like you're the expert yet, but you're going through this just like them. But you might have a little more experience with it or whatever. Or, or you may not. You just you feel this stronger, and then you start to see a way to get out, and you start to share it with a brother or a sister, even. And and so that's this is about relations, Jeff. This isn't about a drop-off. Here, here's here's the problem, I think, when you're asking those questions. The guy thinks I just hand you this book and I'm done. No, no, no. This is a battle plan. And this is a battle, you know, Jesus always sent this out two by two. You have been a friend of mine for a long, long time. We've gone through a lot of stuff together. There are days where I was down and you could explain to me, hey Jack, this is this, this is this, or I went, you know, right? And vice versa. We help eat, yeah, we help each other. And we don't think we can do it alone either. We go vertical, we ask for the grace. There's guys, Jeff, that have never prayed before. So we're showing them, hey, dude, you just try it. Open up your heart. God is always knocking, knocking, knocking, right? Ask, seek, and knock. So you really see the power of this. This is it. When you feel the power, Jesus didn't come to manage your sins, including pornography. He came with power. Now, this is a battle because as soon as they try to do good, what's going to happen? Satan comes in, and that's why we have the Claymore battle plan. The first battle, and this is why we always start with the heart. John Paul would say very clearly the first battle always starts on the battlefield of the human heart. Between love and lust, between being a self-giving person and someone that's going to grasp. Between the opposite of love, say, is pornography. The opposite of being self-giving is seeing a person as an object to use. So this is the opposite. This will destroy a man if he would stay with it long enough. It will destroy your heart, your marriages, your relationships. You'll become a timid, emasculated man who never ever is fulfilled, who never feels. This is not about how much I accomplish in the world, how much money I make. When you stand up for what's true, good and beautiful in the world, they will be writing about you someday, your family, people that you changed their lives because they saw you as a man. Think about this. The early Catholic knights, right? They were chivalrous. They were very disciplined in their hearts, too. And not only were they great fighters, but they fought to protect their families back home, their children, and the invasion from other countries, right? They they knew they had to have a nation. Why? Because when they're raising a family, you have to have a nation that's going to allow them to flourish, right? So this is that whole battle plan, Jeff. It's a great question because these guys often, often will come into this battle plan and be open to it because they know something's wrong and nobody has ever showed them the way.

SPEAKER_01 23:20

I think that the big thing, as you meant just mentioned, is you have to stand up to be a man. A man means having the courage. So in fact, on the back of our wristband, it says, be not afraid. It's not a question of I mean it it is masculine, but it's not a question of how big you are, how much muscles you have, how much courage you have. And and nothing if there's anything I guess you really need to work for in this battle plan is develop a strong will to engage in the battle.

SPEAKER_00 23:54

And even more than that, Jeff, the guy that the guy that presents this to you, you have you already have to see that man as that virtuous man, as that man who who is a witness already to something more powerful. In other words, it it takes a witness, it takes a man that that this young person or person coming into his life that God puts in front of him looks up to him and says, that's a changed human. There's something new about him. Jesus would call it a new creation, right? You're a new creation, you're given a new heart. Well, that's recognizable. Now, for people that are in darkness, right? People that choose darkness, and there's plenty of them out there. I mean, the culture in the world is full of them. You're not gonna just, you know, miraculously change those people. In fact, they're children of the darkness and they've given themselves over, unfortunately. Can they ever come out of it? Of course, you know, you know, Christ can overcome that, but they choose not to, Jeff. So it's it's not gonna work for everybody because we're free. You know, if you know, we're we're rational people, and this is why young men are waking up. You know, people ask us why are they coming into the church? Because their reason was given to them as a gift and to search for the truth. What is the truth of things? And now nobody's there for them, Jeff. You know, when you walk into the story as a mentor in the Claymore Battle Plan, and you're practicing it, and you become a witness, you open up a whole model and a relationship, and then you can express this right through the Claymore battle plan. You may not have the words, but the battle plan does, and this allows you to pass it on.

SPEAKER_01 25:30

And in the there's there's gonna be failure. It's like Christ carrying his cross. You get up, brush yourself off, and keep going again. Even if you have to do that.

SPEAKER_00 25:44

This is a great point, Jeff. So, in that praying with temptations in the morning, how do you do that? Well, Act 11 from the from the Claymore Battle Plan is written by Father Ryan Browning, a good friend of ours, and he shows you exactly how to do that. But right in that prayer, you know, in the commentary he gives after that prayer, is he he'll say exactly what you just said. He says, Does that mean you'll never fall again? No. He said what you just said, and it's in there. So Act 11, for those of you who are just cracking this open, we'll let you cheat. We'll let you go to Act 11. You really should read through the whole thing because it lays a formation, but Act 11 is special because uh you can start on your knees, you can go to Act 11, you can pray with that prayer in the morning.

SPEAKER_01 26:27

Sure.

SPEAKER_00 26:28

It will help, and it will tell you exactly what you said.

SPEAKER_01 26:30

And then just finally, finishing up, in addition to the outline and the handbook, then we'll be supporting it more and more with the podcast and the website.

Addiction Porn And Temptation As Prayer

SPEAKER_00 26:41

Yeah, the podcast, I have just lost interest in bringing you people more news because you can get the news. It's twisted and distorted a lot of times. So what our podcast always does is is trying to break through and you bring you the truth. But at the end of the day, this is such a gratifying thing to see these young people waking up and finally, you know, thanking us and supporting us and and just the relationship that we're building, uh Jeff, with uh and when I say young men, I I mean a 70-year-old man who got a new heart. On our last Zoom call, we have Zoom calls, which is another thing that we do for people that are interested in in training or meeting other people and learning how to implement this, what we're talking about today. We do regular Zoom calls. Just get go to our website, Claymore Milituschristie.com. We'll have it in the show notes. Go there. The whole thing is laid out for you. This uh Claymore battle plan outline that we're talking about. You can look at it for free. You can get the overview of the whole thing. Uh, if you decide uh you want to make a donation and get a book, we're gonna ship you the blessed miraculous medal, the wristband, some business cards, even you know, with our with our that you can pass to the next guy. Uh so you're really equipped for that battle plan. But even we're gonna be there for you if you need us, but you should be able to be equipped that you don't really have to have as you can go out. So I'm saying that because don't wait. We don't have time to wait, but we're gonna be doing more and more events. We do them already around the Midwest. We're gonna expand that out. A lot of events, yeah. A lot of times for guys to get it. So once they get registered on our website, they'll be notified of the uh Yeah, and so sign up on our website, sign up uh then under either a disciple, someone who that wants to learn more, or as a as a potential mentor, because we have these mentors, uh Jeff, as you know, uh being planted, these seeds being planted in parishes, and and and it our vision is to have this all over the country. And and so when a guy's from uh South Dakota, and I just had a young guy uh reach out in Texas, you know, he can plant a seed in his parish, and then as as they meet young guys, first of all, it's a one-on-one discipleship, but that's how it starts. So you don't need to do anything, Jeff. You don't have to start new programs, whatever. So don't don't get involved in all that. We don't have time. This is this is proclaiming the gospel, getting a man's heart back, and and doing it, you know, in in the way Jesus preached it, right?

SPEAKER_01 29:09

All right, thanks, Jack. Uh you've answered uh questions, and I think this will help anybody proceeding down this path to have some guidance.

SPEAKER_00 29:18

Yes, yes. Hey, thanks for bringing up the questions. And you guys, again, my email, I'll I'll put it in the show notes. You know, reach out, you know, bring these questions forth. We want to clear it up for you. If you're new, wondering what to do or how to do it. I don't care if we repeat ourselves a hundred times, uh Jeff, because it's just so beautiful. The the people we're meeting alone, right, when when the light bulb goes off, or or when they were already disciples of Christ, and now they have a way to pass this on. And and I'll end with this. One of the biggest problems we all have, we would go to a like a that man is you in a local parish, right, as men, and we'd be up, we'd be feeling good, right? We're we're with our people that we know, we're encouraged, etc. But then we'd go home, and that that that emotional would that emotion would come down. All of a sudden I'd lack courage, I'd start to fear, I don't know what to do or how to say it. Claymore battle plan bridges that gap, it takes this and allows you a way to bring it right down to your circle. And again, don't impose, just propose what's true, good, and beautiful, and pray that God puts those people on your path. And that's all you got to do. Follow God's plan. Follow God's plan.

SPEAKER_01 30:30

So say Nomini Patries, right? Sign off. Spirit Sana T.

SPEAKER_00 30:37

Amen. Amen. Hey, glory to God, huh? Hey, thanks everyone. Thanks for joining us today, Jeff. You're a pleasure. Thanks so much for coming on. Email us some questions, we'll continue this journey. Goodbye, everyone. Talk to you in the day.

SPEAKER_01 30:48

Thanks, Jeff.