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#663 Stolen Innocence is the Devil's Playground: When a Culture Normalizes the Exploitation of the Innocent
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The innocence of our children is under systematic attack. This eye-opening conversation exposes how predators operate in schools and beyond, manipulating young minds and normalizing harmful behaviors that lead to lifelong damage.
Crime investigator Thomas Hampson shares disturbing patterns he's witnessed throughout his career tracking child predators. The explosion of teacher-student sexual exploitation cases reflects a deeper cultural crisis where children are increasingly sexualized by educational materials, social media, and popular entertainment.
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Tired to get people to understand what's going on. We call it stolen innocence because that's exactly what they do to these young people. They steal their innocence, they twist and distort their moral imaginations. I was with a friend on Sunday and he said Jack, he goes. I wouldn't be surprised if the shooter was into this trans movement. And I said no, they were investigating him, asked him for his phone. Of course he gives it to him. And they find child porn all over it.
Speaker 2:These are women predators that we're seeing all over the place now in schools, where they're coming and engaging in sex with young kids. Being sexually active is something that's normalized in the school.
Speaker 1:This is a spiritual warfare, just like I read from Romans. And if they don't battle this, they can go down a dark hole. I'm excited to be with a good friend of mine, crime investigator, who throughout his career, worked undercover to take down child rapists, child sex predators, those involved in child pornography. And we've been fighting the battle, haven't we, tom? We have, yeah, and it's not easy out there. We'll talk about it a little later if you don't mind out there, because we'll talk about a little later if you don't mind. Uh, you know they're throwing big money at uh at it's, at satan and all his uh rabble rousers behind us. So let's talk about that a little later. But it was interesting. I want to get your comment on this. You know you and I talk about stolen innocence all over the state of illinois and and we would go beyond that if we had a budget and trying to get people again to dialogue, trying to get people to understand what's going on we call it stolen innocence because that's exactly what they do to these young people. They steal their innocence, they twist and distort their moral imaginations, they obliterate them and they do it for manipulation purposes, but anyway.
Speaker 1:So I was with a friend on Sunday and he said, jack, he goes, I wouldn't be surprised if the shooter was into this trans movement. And I said no, I said I didn't read anything about that. I said you know, he sounded like a bright kid, he got good SAT scores, came from a conservative family. Why would you say that? He says I don't know. He said it just wouldn't surprise me. Well, I found out. I did a little poking around and found out almost right away. This guy is living with his trans, I don't know, is a girlfriend, boyfriend. He's a boy. Who's transitioning.
Speaker 2:Right, yeah, it's a boy. Right, he's becoming a girl.
Speaker 1:It says he's a girl All right, so he was. So you know, I was like surprised, but not surprised because of all the things that you and I talk about. Well, they're also furries. They're furries. Yeah, they're furries too. I couldn't believe that, and we deal that with high school kids, right, you and I. But I haven't heard furries at 22, 23 years old. I mean my gosh, something's really got to be wrong, right. So now I'm looking at this old guy, george zinn, who who isn't it so?
Speaker 1:old now that I guess I'm getting older, right? But this old guy he said this, you know, elderly rabble rouser who, who falsely claimed he shot charlie kirk, right? Well, they, they were investigating him. Ask him for his phone, of course he gives it to him and they find child porn all over it. And let me just see what it says here. So, charged with four counts of sexual exploitation of minors, after investigators found more than 20 images of kids as young as five years old on his phone, zinn admitted that he gets sexual gratification from viewing and sharing child sexual abuse material and images with others and that his preferred victim age is 5 to 12 years old. 5 to 12 years old, tom.
Speaker 1:This is a sickness, and let me just finish my kind of long rant here that I was reading Romans. Romans, chapter 1, and it's God's wrath against men's wickedness. And I'll just read a little bit. He says creator, who is blessed forever. For this reason, god gave them up to disordered passions. Their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural. The men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another. Men committed shameless acts, with men receiving in their own persons the due penalty for their error. And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, god gave them up to base mind and improper conduct. They were filled with all manner of wickedness, evil, covetedness, malice, full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, and they are slanders, etc. And it goes on and on. Foolish, heartless, ruthless Does that describe anybody to you?
Speaker 2:Yeah, there was a lot of what's going on now it's like we've become Gomorrah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it really has become Gomorrah. And what that passage gets to which I didn't read, I guess I touched on it was St Paul saying that once you turn away from God, you turn away from the divine life. You want to be like God Just from Genesis 3, and you'll turn evil into good and good into evil. Where these young people you know have been indoctrinated, right and they really they hear this, what they call hate speech of Charlie Kirk, when all he's out doing is debating people and because of hate speech they're allowed to take that person out.
Speaker 2:And this was the statement from this young man that shot Charlie, that he couldn't take the hate speech anymore some of the things he said, taken out of context, that look like they could be considered to be hate speech, when if you look in the entire context of it, they're not at all. He actually was very open to hear people what they had to say and listened to them respectfully. He debated them respectfully. I just don't get why and where all this hatred of him came from.
Speaker 1:Well, Tom, you know where it came from. Just what I said in Romans, they exchanged the truth for a lie, and I really think you know that if you try to analyze this rationally, you won't get anywhere. This is spiritual warfare. The only way to rationalize it in our mind is to read the Scripture, understand our faith and know that this is what happens. Your mind just like it says here gets darkened. You get full of lusts, and it's not just sexual lust, but it starts there and it very often manifests there. You see this among the greedy of the world and the rich and the elites. They always have some kind of sexual fetish, along with the money and the greed and the other things that they do.
Speaker 2:You know, and they have. No, they have no higher power, no God that they're accountable to.
Speaker 1:You realize, yeah, when you take God out, there is you know who's going to tell you what's, what's what's good and what's evil anymore, you just make it up yourself. And this is where we're at, you know. You talk about even women now, who are praying, you know, and young people, women they never did that before. I mean, this shows a certain acceleration, don't you think of what's going on, right?
Speaker 2:You don't even see that much in the Old Testament where they had women going after, that much in the Old Testament where they had women going after they participated in things. But these are women predators that we're seeing all over the place now in schools where they're coming and engaging in sex with young kids. There was one that I wrote about was 11 years old.
Speaker 1:Now this teacher is from a town, Decatur, Illinois, which is far out from the city, you would think didn't we speak, Didn't we do a Stolen?
Speaker 2:Innocence. We did, we spoke in Decatur.
Speaker 1:Actually, yeah, that was a pretty well-attended event, Right, and remember, when we asked them, we said well, how many problems can you have way out here? You know, you and I drove what a couple hours or.
Speaker 2:I forget what it was.
Speaker 1:Three hours what a couple hours, or I forget what it was. Three hours to get down? Yeah, it was like farms and stuff, right, and we thought, well, there could be no problem down here. They wouldn't even understand what we're talking about. And yet, do you remember? Oh yeah they had all the same issues in their schools weak pastors, parents that are apathetic, kids with mental illness. You can't. You know I was surprised, you know, when I heard all that that one that wasn't only the teacher that was going after that kid.
Speaker 2:The parents sued the school and the teacher almost immediately after it was discovered. You know, I guess they saw dollar signs. Well, one of the things that was revealed in the investigation was that the teacher molested the kid on several occasions when he had overnight play dates with the teacher. Now here's an 11-year-old that had an overnight play date with a teacher. Where were the parents? Now, why would the parents even allow that? Are you going to let your child go over to the teacher's house and spend the night with them?
Speaker 1:Well, I guess there's a couple ways to look at that. But if it's a boy with a woman, which which I I don't get it, tom, but at least if you're doing it that way, you figure well what, what, what could happen, right, I guess?
Speaker 2:well, I'm letting people know that a lot can happen now. I mean in in years ago it wasn't something that happened very often, but now the way the schools have sexualized kids, both boys and girls being sexually active is something that's normalized in the schools. In fact, if you're not sexually active, then there's something wrong with you, and so the idea that it would be wrong for a teacher to have sex with a kid is not that strongly enforced in our culture anymore.
Speaker 1:And what happens is, you know, you say, okay, well, here's a young boy. I mean, whatever, I'm sure there's an audience here, somebody in the audience thinking, well, that wouldn't be so bad if I was a young guy, blah, blah, blah. But here's the problem. What we see is we see these young guys. Now we have an apostolate called Claymore, with the big sword behind me, and we meet the guys from 17 to 30 years old it's for Gen Z and a little bit above that. And these guys, what happens is it unleashes something within them and they start to see women, not just that teacher, but they start to see all women as objects.
Speaker 1:So, you say, okay, well, what harm could that do? Right, at least the kid can't get pregnant, or whatever. Not that the teacher couldn't get pregnant. But it unleashes lust, an objective way to look at other people, and you can get caught into all kinds of things. Certainly, pornography is going to be part of this masturbation, pornography, lust, looking at a young girl in your classroom and seeing her as someone to use instead of someone to love. So when we meet these guys, when they're older, in their mid-20s, etc. These early experiences had a dramatic influence on their hearts and we see this. This is a spiritual warfare, just like I read from Romans, and if they don't battle this, they can go down a dark hole, can't they?
Speaker 2:Well, I actually had a man come up to me after one of the talks I gave and talked about how he had become sexually addicted when he was a child. His mother had hired a tutor to tutor him in math when she was in ninth grade. He was in, he was like in fourth or fifth grade and from the first day that the tutor started she had started having sex with him. So for four years he was having regular sex with the tutor.
Speaker 2:And he said what happened was that he became thoroughly sexually addicted and it damaged him. I mean he was. He still struggled with it wait.
Speaker 1:Did you say how old was the girl? She was in ninth grade. Oh, okay, so 15 he was in 16.
Speaker 2:He was in 17 and 18 fourth or fifth grade and, wow, he started having sex with him. So all through her time in high school. It ended when she was in high school and then, when he got into high school, he became the sexual predator of all the girls, because now he knows everything.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and this is going to be a trajectory throughout their whole lives. You mentioned a number of times that women they're not as visual as men, obviously. So the photographs you want to explain that a little bit. And how women get caught up and into the illusion, tom. They start to live in their heads and they don't really see objective reality anymore, even the porn movies.
Speaker 2:Jenna Jameson, or so I think was her name, was that started doing the porn movies from a woman's perspective. They were more narrative, more storytelling.
Speaker 1:Well, wasn't that you mentioned Fifty Shades of Grey, wasn't that's kind of a soft porn, but it's not a soft one.
Speaker 2:Right, that was another, but that's exactly what women go for Right. And then they have all these romance novels that everybody did, all these uh writers are coming out with. Even stacy abrams was a romance novel she wrote about stacy abrams you're kidding, that was a was a romance novelist and hers were extremely graphically erotic. I mean, here is very erotic, erotic. And so the thing is they draw the women in, not with pictures, but with word pictures. They talk about the circumstances and the occasion very, very sensual and erotic in a storytelling way.
Speaker 1:Well, we've read some of these books that because we got them right out of the kids' libraries, right.
Speaker 1:These local libraries before we do a talk, and they're not only sexually explicit but exactly right, you could see them pushing the emotional buttons of these young girls and setting them up, right, and they think it's love. And then they get used. And then what they actually do because we do high school retreats, tom yes, right, they actually have reduced love to just this feeling now, right, this romantic feeling they call it, and then further reduce that down to sex, to the act of sex, and they literally think that during that act of sex that they will find love. And you just go, girls you know, I'm talking about 16, 17 year old girls we're speaking to and they say say, girls, that's not where you find it. And they're like you're kidding, right, they really think that that's what it is and that when they hear this message, this Charlie Kirk message, to be chased, to wait till you get married, they think it's hate speech, tom, they literally think that he's trying to hold back on them, right?
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, if you mention that purity is the better path, then what you're doing is you're condemning people that are pure, and so that is definitely hateful.
Speaker 1:Well, and even if they are pure Tom, because some of these girls we're meeting have not had sex yet, but they're thinking about it right, and they think that they lost out on something. So they're actively thinking you know how do I do this right and who do I do this with? And you start to see them really searching and they can get very down and depressed when they see another girl with a boyfriend and they don't have one and they start to hear that you know they're sexually active and then they're not. It's like they're missing out on something. It's really sad to see.
Speaker 2:Well, even when I was in school, they didn't teach a lot of these, the terminology that was very well you know, I was in the olden days when they had school, but one of the things I remember that they did not teach in school was that love is sacrifice. It isn't a feeling. And so I don't know if you, I remember a song I think it was later, when I was a teenager, or something Love is a feeling, wasn't it? Wasn't our song by the name of love is a feeling. Yeah, you don't want me to sing it.
Speaker 1:Tom, yeah, no, but no, you're exactly right. But then I remember as a really little kid, is what's that poem? You know, first comes love, then comes marriage, then comes baby in the baby carriage.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:And now that's trying to teach us something, right? That's a simple thing. First comes love, and what does that mean? Then comes, you know, marriage. Well, now they broke that apart and they say first comes love, feeling sex, then maybe marriage, and maybe, if the baby comes, we'll abort it because we're not ready yet. We're going to ask you to join us by helping us get the word out. So, if you can make sure you subscribe and then hit like, no matter which platform you're on, remember that the Become who you Are podcast is on audio on any music or podcast app. We're up on Rumble YouTube. You can find us on X. When you do subscribe, hit the like button.
Speaker 1:A couple things to share with people Love Ed, love Ed is just such an important apostolate. So it's within our apostolate the John Paul II Renewal Center. This helps parents give the talk to their children. We're trying to push back on all these gender ideologies and the porn culture and give children the truth and do it through their parents, and we help them do that. The other one is really taken off too. It's Claymore Militants Christi, soldiers for Christ. That's where you see the sword behind me. That's the big sword. That's our logo for Claymore, that's a Claymore sword. And this is for young people, especially young men, gen Z, high school all the way through, let's call it, till they're 30 years old or so. They're starting to really understand that something nefarious, very toxic, is going on in the culture, and so they're stepping into the church and we're discipling them. So we want to help get the word out about those things and, lastly, consider financially supporting us. Everything's in the show notes. Hey, god bless you. Thanks again. And this is where Charlie would push back Tom.
Speaker 1:He would say, no, that baby is a human being, and that became hate speech because you're pushing back against their right to pleasure, without worrying about raising a child which becomes, to your point, a sacrifice.
Speaker 2:Well, this is what's being taught in schools, though, that internationally, the United Nations adheres to the belief that children have a right to engage in sexual activity whenever and with whomever they want. That this is a child's right. So if you speak against that, if you say that they should remain celibate until marriage, then that's contrary, you are infringing on the rights of the children.
Speaker 1:Now think about what you just said. Do you think that those stinking perverts and pedophiles have these children's you know interests in mind, or their own interests, when they say that? You know, that's the whole thing. That's the whole thing, what a bunch of jackasses. Excuse my French.
Speaker 2:Structure of the sex education and what we're teaching children is all self-serving. It's no longer self-sacrifice. I remember when being a teacher was considered to be sacrificing sacrificial. You can't call it that anymore. You can't call it because they get paid more than people in the private sector now.
Speaker 1:With a lot less days in the office.
Speaker 2:Right, and they have pensions that are unparalleled by anybody. So public service it's still called public service, but these people are paid enormous amounts of money for doing very little in many cases.
Speaker 1:And this becomes who we call the deep state, the deep church all this stuff, that we lost the virtue and the value behind work.
Speaker 1:There was a time where a man would go to work, or a woman, and you give your eight hours, and you're there to give your eight hours because that's what that's who I am as a person that somebody's paying me, I expect a wage, obviously, from my employer, but I also expect to give him those eight hours. Now we're on our phones half the time, you know, and blah, blah, blah. Well, anyways, you know, this is all becomes part of this. You, but district 211, the beginning of the end for the trans agenda. You talked about conan high school, so this is another high school near us, right? We're talking about all the stuff that's right around us.
Speaker 1:You want to talk about that a little bit yeah for people that aren't from illinois, schomburg's, not too far from the, from the city of chicago a little well, it's right near.
Speaker 2:They might know Westfield better.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. So talk a little bit about that. I mean, you know where are we with that, did they? Finally, you know, tell that 6'4 boy who, well, you wrote about it, what are the details on that? Talk about the size of that boy. He never, I don't think he ever played volleyball, never played volleyball.
Speaker 2:They got him on the girls volleyball team. He's six foot four. He decided that he was a girl, so they immediately put him on the volleyball team. They immediately allowed him to go into the girls locker room, but this is all in compliance with Illinois law. This is all in compliance with Illinois law. Illinois law requires this, and so what we've got is a conflict between Illinois law and the federal law. Federal standards.
Speaker 1:And so eventually— and Tom, to your point, right there, when the Biden administration was here, you had federal law on the side of these crooked, distorted state laws, and during the Obama administration it really started.
Speaker 2:It's all transgender allowing the men to the bathroom started during the Obama administration. It started with Kevin Jennings, who was the founder of GLSEN, Gay Lesbian Straight Education Network, sending letters out to all the schools saying that they had to let them you know, let the boys and the girls and the girls in the boys bathrooms if they were, you know, if they considered themselves transgender. So they really started with the Obama administration. It was briefly withdrawn by the Trump administration, but the first Trump administration. But most schools didn't comply with what what he wanted and what the Trump Education Department wanted. They just kind of dragged their feet. And then, when Biden came in, they went full bore on the side of the you know, the transgenders in the opposite locker rooms and being involved in and again what you know, what you know.
Speaker 1:some people don't understand this issue again. I just want to berate. The point, I guess is that when you twist and distort young people and you call good evil and evil good, if I tell you that's a boy and I know it's a girl or vice versa, it's a lie. And now you're telling me I have to accept that lie. This is what we're doing to the kids. We're lying to them over and over. And it's not only that. It's about race division, it's about the 1619 Project, it's all these things that we're twisting and distorting and not telling them the truth. So these kids go out from high school and they're changed already by the time they get to college. Tom, if nobody's giving them the other side, which a lot of them don't have anymore, they have no faith.
Speaker 2:Nobody is giving them the other side, because a lot of times their parents aren't aware of it and so they have nothing, that they don't really they're. They're told. The kids are told that don't bother talking to your parents about it. So you know they're, you know they. They don't know what's going on.
Speaker 1:And when Tom says that to everybody listening, these are actually written into the National Sex Ed Standards. The way they coach that is you may be looking for an adult that you can confide in, and they start to talk about that and bring them in and say I'm that adult, either a teacher or somebody from GLSEN or whatever. And it's not like they don't say a parent could be somebody you can confide in, but if you're not comfortable with that, come talk to us. And even the school counselors are in on this and you can't make this stuff up. Tom, when I first heard about this I thought that can't be true. And it's not only true, it's pervasive and, just like you said, this has been coming down for a long time. It's just that with the Biden administration Obama, biden and then COVID it just all accelerated and it exploded and the mental illness that we're finding with our children is unbelievable on the ruling that's going to come out from the Supreme Court about what the meaning of sex is in Title IX.
Speaker 2:So they say female and male. You know they have to have female sports and male sports. So it's the definition of female and male that all this is going to hinge on. If the Supreme Court comes out and says, well, yeah, if they all go on the side of Ketanji Jackson Brown, you know we're stuck with this. She's somebody that said that she couldn't identify what a woman was, even though she is a woman. She doesn't know. I don't know, I don't know what a woman is. She's not a biologist and she's on the Supreme Court.
Speaker 1:Right the supreme court, right? I mean, I can ask my, my grandkids that are just little, two and three year olds tell me if your mommy is a mommy and your daddy's a daddy, tell me which one is. Which can you tell? And why is your mom a mom? Right, they'll tell you. My mom had me. My mom was pregnant with they know this stuff well, you know the top and we were waiting for the supreme court to tell us what, what, what a woman is matt.
Speaker 2:Matt walsh went to you know africa and talked to a primitive tribe and they laughed at him. About what do you mean? A woman? Well, they had the same reaction that I had when I first learned about this.
Speaker 1:I said, well, that can't be so you laugh you just go what? Yeah, this is a joke right.
Speaker 2:So it's not a joke, it's uh, but this is what. This is what, um, we've come to in this country where you've got a uh. Somebody imagines something in their mind and says, well, this is the way it is that they've got power, they get a law passed, they do something, they, they do something ridiculous and then you got to go to the Supreme Court to get them to straighten out or not.
Speaker 2:Or the straight Supreme Court goes along with them, because the Supreme Court has allowed. There's a transgender woman at one of the Eden Prairie, indian Prairie school district or school down in the Naperville area started off as a man and then he transitioned into a woman and so then they had to keep him on because they couldn't get rid of him. Because the Supreme Court said well, you can't discriminate against somebody because of their gender identity. Well, to me this is an indication that the guy is sick, and why would you want to have him anywhere near your kids?
Speaker 1:Yeah, but anyways, what happens and what we're seeing is this has unleashed all this violence and stuff that you see, you know, I mean it's not like there was no violence before, but there's no. I mean the violence of these people to come out and even to the point of killing Charlie Kirk and attacking other people. But we know this even from school boards. Tom, talk a little bit about, you know, when people stand up at school board meetings and of course we encourage people to do that. Often we see a lot of trans people there.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:And it's not that there's that many trans people.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:But there are big organizations and big money around. When they hear especially if it's been publicized a little bit that there's an upcoming board meeting that's going to debate these issues and you have a few parents that are going to speak, what do they do? There's money behind it and you know about this. Talk a little bit about that.
Speaker 2:Right. We've seen this recently in the Deerfield School District and also the Conan High School.
Speaker 1:Which again, for those listeners outside of Illinois, those are again suburbs.
Speaker 2:Suburbs right. In both cases they had the transgender issue came up and they had a majority of the people that showed up were on the side of the trans, and so it appeared to anybody on the outside looking in. They say, wow, these guys have a majority of the position, so I guess most of the people must support this. It isn't true On that trans issue. In sports it's probably 95 to 5 in favor of only girls beyond girls teams.
Speaker 2:But what happens is there's an organization called the Indivisible Project, which was started after Trump was elected the first time with money from George Soros, and they've set up chapters all over the country to organize and marshal the left causes to every event that might need people to attend, and they have a weekly Zoom meeting with all the people from all the left-wing organizations.
Speaker 2:They try to get them organized. Anybody can join it, the Zoom meeting, the Zoom call, and where the leaders of the Indivisible Project will tell everybody what the topics of the week are, what the main things that we're trying to get done. They'll highlight certain events that they want to make sure that people attend. They were the ones that were behind marshalling all the people to get them together for the no Kings movement, no Kings marches against the Tesla dealerships. They're the ones that did that, so that if anybody on the left has a cause that they want to engage in. Say, like recently, the transgenders wanted to pick at Lurie Hospital because when Lurie Hospital stopped doing gender affirming care, they stopped doing the surgeries and providing gender affirming care to people, to kids under 18.
Speaker 1:And the reason they did that was because of the pushback, the potential lawsuits coming out of the Trump administration.
Speaker 2:Right and they were cutting off money to them.
Speaker 1:That's exactly right, because Pritzker's got his money behind that, just for people that don't't know, and funded the gender affirming you know, as we mutilate children's bodies gender affirming care they call it, you know.
Speaker 2:So the local chapter of the Indivisible Project got everybody to go to the demonstration outside of Lurie, and so they not only had the trans people there, they had the people that were pro-choice and you know every left wing cause out there. They had them all marching. So they, instead of having you know five trans out there with signs, they had 300 people with the signs against Lurie's, and they do that every place, so that it looks like there's a massive number of people that are in support of these different issues. In some cases there is a lot. There were a lot of people that were concerned about the no kings, the anti-fascists and all these other people that are out there against authoritarian rule that they claim that this administration is engaging in. It's a fake, it's a facade. They don't have the numbers that what these demonstrations seem to indicate, because they pull people from entire region or even from other states.
Speaker 1:And people don't realize, tom, people don't realize they're getting paid. So you know, you see these Tesla dealerships burning up all over the country, right? And you think, wow, you know, this is a Tesla dealerships burning up all over the country, right?
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:And you think wow, you know, this is a big movement. Well, these people are getting paid to do this. People are getting paid, not all the people, key people are being paid. Yeah Well, I tell you what. There was a group of people, protesters, holding up signs in a recent protest and they said they're going home. And they said well, why are you guys going home? Because we only got paid until 3 o'clock to be here until 3 o'clock and they're leaving.
Speaker 2:Sure, that happens all the time. That even happened when I was, you know, I worked undercover years ago and they had the socialists. The socialists came out in an anti-Klan demonstration or something. They brought them in by the truckload and they had all these signs that were printed up. This is back in the 70s and they were marching around with their signs and then they got up and left. They were paid.
Speaker 1:They were all paid people To your point again the leaders are on the payroll, getting paid all the time.
Speaker 1:But, the people that show up. Of course, I'm sure they get some crazy people out there that would come out for free. But there's an incentive. Hey, there's 200 bucks involved if you come out between seven o'clock in the morning until one o'clock or whatever. And uh, and I remember not too long ago that that a couple of them were saying hey, you know, this is getting a little bit more dangerous now. We're getting more pushback from the police that Trump is here and we need more than you know 150 bucks now We'll come out for 250 bucks.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean, and so they were having these debates and the information got out.
Speaker 1:So it's, you know, for 250 bucks if I'm not working, and you know I don't really care you know, give me the 250 bucks. I'll go out there, I mean right.
Speaker 2:I will, too, give me the money.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, I'd probably be tempted now sometimes, you know right, but anyways, the point being, when the people show up like that, we think there's so many of them, but that's why the same guys, the same girls will show up in picture after picture after picture. People have done this right and said hey, that guy shows up to every single march in the Chicagoland area and they show, they take pictures and they show these same people that are ubiquitously there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so Tom. So we had some good on the way out here today. We had some good news with is it Mahmoud versus Taylor. What was?
Speaker 2:that.
Speaker 1:Just quickly, can you just quickly? Review that Because people need to have some encouragement. They need to stand up, Otherwise they all get.
Speaker 2:That's a good sign as to how they're going to rule on this Title IX, also about whether or not there's going to be boys allowed in girl sports. I think that Mahmoud versus Taylor very clearly says that parents need to be able to opt out of any teaching that is given to a child that is offensive to the religious education that parents are trying to instill in their children. So that somebody comes that these books, these teaching materials that are being used that promote the idea that children should have a right to engage in sex, that explains to children how to engage in different kinds of sexual activities, that tells these kids that that you can be really born in the wrong body, all that stuff. Parents have a right to opt their children out of it and the schools have an obligation to tell the parents in advance when there's any kind of material that might tread on the toes of the religious education that the children are involved in.
Speaker 2:So the parents have the opportunity to opt out. It's not just they have to. Parents have to figure out what's going on. There's an obligation of the schools to notify parents when there's something that could be controversial that's coming up, to give them an opportunity to opt out. So that's a very good thing and it's going to change. Really, if parents do this, it's going to completely gut the sex education program and even the social-emotional learning that they've implemented in these schools, Because the social-emotional learning was a way that they could introduce sex education, not just in a health class. So you could say, well, I don't want my kid participating in that, but they could. They could teach that in math.
Speaker 1:They could teach it in all this kind of thing.
Speaker 2:Like, for example, if, um, you know they could use stories in math about a family that was non-traditional, that you can have two daddies or two mommies, and yeah, because you're just counting how many people in this family and they show two dads with two kids andies yeah, because you're just counting.
Speaker 1:How many people in this family and they show two dads with two kids and they'd say, well, four Said yes, and then they move on. And so these subtle things are in the math books, they're in all the different things. You know heroes now are being brought up for history class. You hear, governor Pritzker, you and I, in our presentation we quote Governor Pritzker for Harvey Milk and names all these people who are now heroes, who were, you know, sexual deviants a lot of them you know, and so these are the people that these kids are starting to look at instead of saints and actual heroes.
Speaker 1:You know, we're looking at sexual perverts now and as heroes.
Speaker 2:Well and political degenerates. Harvey Milk was not just a gay man. He was having a sexual relationship with a teenage boy, he was a drug dealer and he was a political operative of Jim Jones, the famous Jim Jones and Jones. Although his worst deed might have been the Jonestown Massacre, he was engaged in some really underhanded activities. He's even been linked to a number of contract killings around the country. So this is the guy that Harvey Milk supported.
Speaker 1:As we close out here, Tom, I just want to reiterate to people that are thinking they get overwhelmed Don't get overwhelmed. Concentrate on the kids, because what Tom just brought up from Harvey Milk okay, he's a gay guy Don't go out and just blast away at gay people right, A lot of them are broke and whatever, but we do have to at least start with our kids. Focus on the children. You know, when you just said that Harvey Milk was also exploiting, how old was that kid, Tom? Do you know?
Speaker 2:that child 16 years old.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So you know, this is where they start to draw the line right, because they are harming young people. They're harming children, and I think everybody should be able to stand up against this. You're going to get pushed back. Unfortunately, they want to, and we know this from our presentations, tom, and all the times we've done this that you'll get some pushback, but just focus on the kids.
Speaker 1:I'm a bigot, I'm a hater. Just say are you kidding? I said how can you say that? And I'm going to just turn it back on them and I always just say you know, what do you have against children?
Speaker 1:Really, what do you have against allowing children to be children, to play baseball, to play with the dolls, to run around in the backyard? Why do you need to sexualize, distort, steal their innocence, distort their moral imaginations, use them and abuse them as your political pawns? And these are children who have no one to protect them, tom, if we don't. And 43% of young, of kids being born today are born in wedlock, out of wedlock, with no father in the home, so there's no one there to protect them. So who? You know these guys? Just, they have just this. You know, just like sheep out in the field, you just you've got all these kids that you can attack and destroy. If we don't stand up for those children, tom, for the ones that are left out and unprotected, then I think we're really missing it. As to be a man, you know we're going to, we're going to be 95 years old, sitting on a rocking chair looking back, and we allowed this evil to go on. You know, fearful or or not, you have to stand up.
Speaker 2:You know well this really isn't a partisan issue either, because it's not a. It's not a republican or democrat issue. It's, and it's not even a um, only a christian issue. Mahmoud versus taylor was brought by uh, aunt Mahmoud.
Speaker 1:What was your first clue, Tom? Yeah?
Speaker 2:The teaching that they were engaged in in the school. That trumped on all of the religious beliefs of all of those groups of people. So this is something that goes across all lines and honestly, in the general sense it's at least an 80-20 issue on what's taught in the schools. It's a 95 issue on the kids in boys and girls sports. That's 95.
Speaker 1:What Tom is saying there is the vast majority of Americans are against all this stuff, right? So?
Speaker 2:we need to get. We need just to come together and we can win on it.
Speaker 1:It's just and we don't need everybody, but we need you. Who's ever listening to this? We need you because there's got to be, if you know, tom, 10 percent I would say 20 percent of people are really Christian Christians in the sense that they go out and they want to protect these kids and they feel a duty not to just keep it inside right and be afraid to go out. 20% are that fallen group that they're just, you know, given over to the other side. But the big chunk in the middle, that 60%, they allow this to happen, they allow that 20% to sound so vocal because they don't show up. Tom, if 10 or 20% of that 60% would come out and join the rest of us, we would look like just like you said it would be defeated in no time at all.
Speaker 2:Well, and those people, the majority of those people, support us. It's just getting them engaged, getting them to activate them, get people to realize that they can do something to stop. Nobody wants their daughter to get exposed to some guy in the locker room, I mean do you really?
Speaker 1:want your daughter to be getting dressed next to a six-foot-tall guy yeah, and here's what happens, again, you know, with these young girls. And again, I know this from our apostle. I was talking about this, the porn issues and stuff, and I heard a mother complaining to another person and she was saying did they have to bring up porn? My 14-year-old girl has a flip phone. She was in the audience, it was eighth graders and above right, and we didn't talk about anything explicit, but we know their young boys have been exposed to porn, right. So we did it talk about anything explicit. But we know, you know, their young boys have been exposed to porn, right, so we did it very tastefully, just mentioning it at least as a danger, right, and why.
Speaker 1:And so this woman is complaining to another woman and saying did they have to bring that up? I have my daughter on a flip phone. We don't allow her to go on the internet, et cetera, et cetera. And I said I heard her and the other woman was trying to defend my talk and she wasn't doing a great job of it. You know, she was kind of stuttering around. So I walked over there and I said excuse me, can I speak to you for a second or can I come in here? And she said yeah, and I said so. I heard. I heard what you said. You know why I you know why? I said do you think I want to come in here and talk about all of this? You know this crap that's going on in the culture. I said this is the last thing I want to talk about. But I said you know why?
Speaker 1:I did it For your daughter and she goes. What do you mean? You did it for my daughter Because I said your pure beautiful young daughter is going to be dating in another year or two and she's going to be sitting in a car with a guy that has been exposed to pornography, maybe a good kid from a good family. But I know these kids and I know what's happening to them and so she'll be there. And you know what I just did for your young daughter, ma'am. She goes besides exposure to pornography. I said I didn't expose her to pornography. I mentioned it to her and you know what I gave her the chance to do, ma'am, and the authority to do to say no. I taught her to say no and you know what ma'am Sounds like. You didn't do that. So I did it for your daughter and that's the truth, tom, have the courage and the human dignity and they understand that when somebody touches me in this appropriate way, even a peer that they can say no, they don't have to accept this.
Speaker 2:And if they, feel uncomfortable.
Speaker 1:That should be enough for them.
Speaker 2:Well, the thing is that they're being taught in school right now that saying no is they have a right to. They have a right to. Really, the only thing that prevents anybody from having sex with them is consent. That's the only issue that they look at right now, and now in schools are teaching them it's normal to have sex. It's your right to have sex with anybody, same or opposite sex, it doesn't make any difference. It's good to experiment.
Speaker 1:This is what they're teaching them A hundred percent, and that's why we have to be able to educate these children and their families and how to understand this, because otherwise they all become victims, tom, they all, including the perpetrator and these young boys. They become victims too, first, and then they push this down. And we know that sexual exploitation and abuse is accelerating One out of every four girls, one out of every six boys right now, men and women I'm talking about adults in the United States one out of every four women, one out of every six men, 60 million adults walking around that were sexually abused as children. And that is growing. And, tom, you know where it's growing the most.
Speaker 2:Right, it's growing among among kids in school. Yeah yeah, they're the ones that are. The sexual exploitation of younger kids by older kids is vastly increasing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, and they're told. The only thing you have to worry about is having safe sex, right?
Speaker 2:And consent and consent All right.
Speaker 1:Tom, hey, we got to go. God bless you. Thank you so much. Thanks everyone for being with us today.