Become Who You Are
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#551 This Election is about "Our Legacy"! Redefining Norms and Their Impact on the Young
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Is the current educational system betraying our children by promoting an alternative reality? Join Jack and Thomas Hampson as they critically assess the cultural and political dynamics shaping our society, with a sharp focus on the implications for truth and the young generation.
In a search for TRUTH we cannot shy away from the big questions, including the contentious participation of transgender athletes in sports and the policies that seemingly challenge scientific facts about gender differences. As we approach the upcoming national elections, we underscore the urgent need for a return to truth-based education to protect the integrity of our children’s future.
Social media is supposed to connect us, but is it actually driving our youth to despair? We unravel the complex relationship between platforms like Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok and the surge in depression and anxiety among young people. The conversation goes beyond the screens to examine the controversial teaching of gender identity in schools and the broader societal shift towards moral relativism. Moreover, we question the legal and educational changes that redefine norms, such as the redefinition of Title IX, and their role in the psychological distress observed among the younger generation.
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I'm very grateful for my good friend, thomas Hampson. Thomas and I talk about the crazy world that we live in, and when I say crazy I mean you know the world might have been crazy at different times, for sure, but the attack on the innocents, on children, on what's going on in our culture. It's really sad in so many ways because Tom and I meet a lot of young people that are very, very confused. This is a confusing time, tom Hampson, who continues to write article after article and on podcasts and getting the word out to what is the truth of things and what is affecting children and what is this culture doing to children. We're trying to wake them up. And, tom, we have a national election coming up and there's so much confusion out there. People are saying it doesn't matter who we vote for or they're both corrupt people and this and that. And when you step back and you realize that if Kamala Harris and this demonic party I was going to say Democratic Party, but I call it the demonic party today, tom you know they're pushing this down on our children right from the very top. And so you know, how much time do we want to spend on thinking about the national elections? I think we should spend a few minutes, tom, because if Trump doesn't get in, we're going to see a real, I think, a real persecution against the truth again, and I think that's what your article brings out.
Speaker 1:What is the truth of things, what is reality? And what are we doing to our children, which is, of course, you know, this indoctrination that we saw, tom, didn't we? You know, my dad's an old World War II vet. He's still alive today, nearing 100 years old, and you know he knew this. They had indoctrination camps in all of these Marxist, socialist Marxist countries, and they did that because they knew, if they could get to the kids, that was it. Within a generation or so, everything was going to change and everything would come under their thumb, and this is what we're seeing play out today. It's almost astounding, tom. I'd like to get your feedback on this. It's almost astounding to me that this could happen in the United States. I think the problem we have as we proclaim the truth is that people don't believe it. I mean, they don't want to believe it. I don't want to believe it, but this is actually happening.
Speaker 1:It's like I know you do, because we talk about it, you just want to step back and pinch yourself and say, okay, am I dreaming or are we in reality right now?
Speaker 2:Well, I think one of the problems is that we've sacrificed our own responsibilities or given up on our own responsibilities and placed them in the hands of other people who are untrustworthy. We figure that we can count on teachers to teach our children the truth, but what's happened to our public institutions is that they become re-education centers for alternate reality. It's not, and and I mean that in a in a serious way the all you have to do is look at what's happened in the NCAA, where they were requiring that men be allowed to swim or to play on women's teams. They required schools all over the country to do that. Leah Thomas was one of them.
Speaker 1:That was what a six foot four swimmer that had very, very, maybe even par mediocre, par average, in the men's division where he swam like two or three years even didn't he?
Speaker 2:he was ranked like four or five hundred in the men's division and he wound up being the number one in the in the women's division when he switched over by quite a bit Right yeah, by a lot yeah. And so you have this redefinition of what is true and what is real that is being imposed by the government through our schools, imposed by the government in, uh, through our schools. This is happening in Illinois and in in a big way in Illinois and in New York and in Minnesota, where governor Walsh comes from, the, the VP candidate for for the on the ticket and in California.
Speaker 2:Yeah, With Kamala right. Right, and so there's a lot of, there's a lot of different states around that have introduced this notion that there is no difference between boys and girls, that you can be a boy one day and a girl the next day. Well, this is completely contrary to what is scientifically provably correct.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. So again, I you you said it really well for re-education centers, not just to indoctrinate them to worship a state or a state leader, like they do in some of the marxist countries, but but this is an alternative reality. I I think that's a great word because we're actually, if we can get human beings to deny the truth, to deny reality which is what we're doing here with Title IX and then get attacked and censored for that, you know that this is a big deal, because this is coming down not only from our country, but from a world economic forum, the who. This is being pressed on the whole unit, the whole universe as we know it, this world, this earth.
Speaker 1:That we know and all kinds of I don't want to go off tangent too much, but all these other realities with climate and all these kinds of things, right, they all fall into this alternative reality. But I think the most clearly seen is, like you said, with men and women, that one day I can be a man, one day I could be a woman. And when I feel like a woman, like Leah Thomas, I actually the culture, the country, country, each person has to actually say yep, you are a woman. And when riley gains the the well-known swimmer who had been winning races, when she was beat by him and stood up against that, she was really attacked, wasn't she?
Speaker 2:yes, well, because she was attacked for being lacking compassion, lacking concern for other people. Because this is you have to recognize the reality that if someone says, if some guy says, that he's a girl, that you have to accept that, because that people's sexuality is dependent on how they feel.
Speaker 1:Not any biological, objective truth how they feel, not any biological, objective truth. Yeah, and interesting, tom, when you say that is, who was thinking about Riley Gaines empathy and compassion for her and for the other women that are that are facing these title nine I mean, you think about title nine, tom? This was brought in to make it equal in sports between men and women, right? So if I had a football program or a basketball or a swimming program on college, then I had to give women some kind of equal opportunities to compete and have their own teams and stuff. And now we've taken that and now we've given it back to men again. We've actually brought men into this space. It's, it's. It can't make this up.
Speaker 2:Well, we've completely, we're on the on the course to erase women, completely erase women. That that that the biological reality of womanhood is not is not a real thing. And we even have a justice of the Supreme court who said a female justice of the Supreme court who said she could not define a woman, so basically she can't define herself. So if she can't define herself, then why would we appoint her to the Supreme Court?
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's the lunacy.
Speaker 2:The logic here is just insane. I don't even understand what's happening. You know she said.
Speaker 1:You know, I'm not a biologist. In essence, if you were, you would know, right, you would know, because scientifically we know these things. So this is how, how, how oddball this whole thing is and we are afraid, so many people are afraid to to stand up for the truth. There's a we were just writing a press release from the john paul to renewal center, you know, just to just to make this obvious in a local school district where a man started to dress up like a woman and he works in the library, I believe, for the school district, and so he went from Mr So-and-so and he wants to be called Miss or Mrs So-and-so. And again, you know, tom, you know there's, you know, no matter what's behind this person. I don't know. Were they sexually abused as a kid? Did they suffer something? Is he suffering from mental illness? I, I don't know. And all of those things, as important as they are to that person we pray for, for, for him who is now believes that he is a her, but that confusion, as confusing as that is for me, think about the children, right, think about the children. So you made the point, tom, and can you go through that? And I just want to reference here right off the front.
Speaker 1:You wrote another great article called Our Legacy what we're handing down to our children, and what legacy do you know are we leaving them? And you go through so many great points on here Again. I'll get this in the show notes, tom's article. It's not that long. It's something that you should have, you should read and you should definitely pass out to people before this election and have them read it quickly. This is what's being pushed on us. This is really the decision. I think, just to make that point once again, between this, not only in the national elections, but our elections all the way down, who stands for reality, who stands for the truth? But make that point, tom, when we confuse the minds of children and you wrote a short paragraph back to me when I was saying, hey, tom, what is going on, what are we trying to do with these and what is going on in these poor children's minds, and you came back with something again, just very succinct, something we should all try to keep in our minds.
Speaker 2:Well, you can't redefine reality. Children have reality modeled to them throughout their life and they can see with their own eyes whether somebody is a man or a woman. And so if you all of a sudden say, well, no, now you've got to call this man, this person that you've known as a man the whole time you've been here at school, now you've got to call him a woman because he's a woman, well, children can't comprehend that kind of thing. It becomes too confusing to them. You're trying to redefine what reality is, to really negate any truth, that there is no truth, that it's just fluid. And the problem with that and the problem with our culture today is that fluidity of the truth confuses children. It makes them.
Speaker 2:Children need certainty in their life. They need to feel secure, and you feel secure by knowing, by having mooring posts, and, as a Christian, the Bible moors us to reality. It moors us to who we are, who we belong to, what we're intended for, where we're going. These are things that are important for people to know, especially for children, because there's so much that they don't know yet. They have much to learn. So when you introduce confusing things to them, gene Twenge wrote an article just recently about how social media is has caused this in just dramatic increase in depression and anxiety among children and, as you can see, I'm going to try to hold this up, tom.
Speaker 1:So in your article you put a chart in. I don't know people will be able to see this, but but they can reference your article and you have this in Right, it's in there, yes. Explain that spike, will you? Tom?
Speaker 2:Okay, well, right around 2009, 2010,. That spike started is when social media became popular, and so there was a dramatic increase in children becoming addicted or just really glued to their screens to the social media activities, and they're looking for likes and acceptance and relationship, and in that media, it feeds their desire for connection, feeds their desire for affirmation, for being connected to another people. They're looking for likes, they're looking for acceptance from other people and they're not getting it, so it creates this. It's a false reality that they're being connected to.
Speaker 2:Twinge says that it's obvious that it's the social media that's caused this rise in depression, but I think there's also other things that are causing it, and right about the same time is when there was an explosion of like, for example, the transgender social contagion, where there was a 4,000% increase in girls becoming identifying as boys and vice versa.
Speaker 2:There was a tremendous increase in that, and that was that social contagion was spread by these social media platforms Facebook, youtube, reddit, instagram, tiktok. All of these things started, and so there are a number of different factors that caused this increase in depression, and Part of it also is the idea that children could be something other than what they were born. They're starting to teach in schools, now as early as three years old and four years old. They tell children that they don't know for sure whether they're a boy or a girl and they won't until later for sure whether they're a boy or a girl, and they won't until later. The the doctor just guessed when they were born, based on the way they appeared, that they were a boy or a girl, and and they're going to have to discover later in their life what they really are.
Speaker 1:Well, this kind of and and and tom, just just to think of pause here. I mean, you know, I don't want to go over that statement too quickly because that's going to be determined on their feelings, on their emotions, not on reality again, so what we're doing and what these organizations know behind the scenes I'm not saying each teacher understands this. They've also been indoctrinated and they've also swam through this, you know, grew up swimming in this, in this toxic culture. So I don't think each individual person, but as a whole, taken as a whole, stepping back, this institutional force behind this knows exactly what they're doing. The kids, don't they? I mean?
Speaker 1:they know that if you know to your point, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they absolutely know that this, this is this is going to allow them, allow children to become more compliant. They can direct them one way or the other easily, if you can. In in 1984, in the book 1984, they they talk about using changing their, changing the definition of words war, war is peace. You know, peace is war, love is hate. Well, if you can change the definitions of things at whim, then you can control the entire society. And they're teaching children that you can change the definition of whatever, even even the very fundamental biological element of your humanity. They can change that by just by saying well, it's only determined by what you feel. If you feel like you're a male or a female, that's what you are. It has nothing to do with biology, it's completely.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and you bring it up. I mean that's such a great point, tom. You bring it up in your article and other things that you and I have talked about. When you start to get this, it just becomes moral relativism in essence, right.
Speaker 2:Everything.
Speaker 1:Yeah, everything is an opinion. So what do you do when you abuse language, like you just said? So everything becomes an opinion. There is no objective truth. The only way that we can move forward? Everybody's Kamala right, let's move forward, but they never tell you how, because everything's relative. If we don't base our humanity and our interactions on reality and on truth, and then language communicates those truths to each other, and if you and I throw out all objective truth and everything becomes an opinion, they know that they can control you to your point. I'm just giving. I'm saying what you just said, just from a slightly different angle maybe to help people understand this.
Speaker 1:If Tom and I, if everything's just an opinion, there's no sense even having a discussion, no sense communicating anymore, because everything that I communicate to Tom, tom's looking at me and saying, well, that's just an opinion. You think that a man is a man, but in reality they could be anything. So when you take truth out of communication, you no longer actually have communication. And then what happens? The propaganda, the media, everybody can distort our reality to the point where nothing's true, nothing's real and that's where you see this chart of anxiety and depression go up with kids. The psychological term, tom, is cognitive dissonance, right, where what you actually are, your reality and what you're meeting outside in the culture don't make sense. And you're trying to make sense of that. If none of us stand up for the truth, then what do we do? We leave those kids in a very tough spot and that's where you're seeing anxiety, depression, even the suicidal. You know this talk of suicide that we see when we're going out to speak to kids in high schools and stuff. You know.
Speaker 2:Well, and they're trying to establish this fungible reality into law, and they've just done this with the redefinition of Title IX. Title IX has been completely rewritten and imposed on the entire country and it's only been enjoined in 26 states because there's a number of attorneys general that have that has filed suit against it, so that it's been it's been enjoined in 26 states. Illinois isn't one of them. We still are. We're, we're under the current title nine mandate to allow or to require somebody who says they are a girl, a man who says he's a girl, we are required to allow them to use a women's locker rooms, restrooms, play on girls' sports, the whole thing.
Speaker 1:So here we are. You can you know and we get this, hearing this all the time that from grade schools and high schools where somebody from the opposite sex walked in and this young girl was saying I was going to the washroom and I and, and somebody's peering over the top and it's a, it's a boy in there, and I let out a scream. And you know, as he left, he was. He just said hey, you know, I'm, I'm a woman, I identify as a woman, and so it just becomes absurd.
Speaker 1:You write in here in your article our job as parents and adults is to protect children from being overstressed to the point of distress. While stress helps us grow, distress is counterproductive. Every child has a different personality and blah, blah, blah. So at the end you say this parents, teachers, coaches must avoid placing children in a situation where the stress becomes too great for them to handle. We need to shield their innocence, protect them from situations and ideas that they are not yet equipped to handle. We are not doing that. You want to talk about that a little bit, because I think this is the core, tom, what we're talking about here, for anybody that gets rattled easily, you know. And pushing back on what Tom and I are talking about here. Tom and I do a presentation called Stolen Innocence. We're talking about young children here, aren't we, tom Right?
Speaker 2:Well, even in high school kids they can become overstressed.
Speaker 1:Yes, I meet them all the time. Know, I, I meet them all the time. Yeah, I meet them all the time, for sure so it's the.
Speaker 2:Our brain isn't fully developed until you're 25 years old. I actually think that's a good point. Age of consent in illinois is 17, for example. You can't. You can vote at 18, I think you can. There's 21 is the age of majority, and for other kinds of things I think it all should be 25, but that would be consistent with biology anyway. But now we're having children 13 years old in Illinois can decide for themselves, without any parental input, without any judicial input whatsoever. They can decide to have an abortion. Now what kind of stress is that to put on a kid?
Speaker 1:Okay, so let's back up for a second. So a 13-year-old girl can walk into Planned Parenthood today without a consent from a parent and have an abortion?
Speaker 2:Yes, in Illinois. Yes, in Illinois, they can. This is law. This is law.
Speaker 1:Holy cow. So there's nothing a parent can do about that, then? No, not at all Nothing. I mean, they could stand up against it, but they'll actually. They can be thrown in jail for this, can't they? And they are being they.
Speaker 2:They could have a child taken away from them for sure if they tried to prevent something like that Medical. Basically, a 13-year-old can decide for themselves on any medical issues in Illinois, from what I understand. But for sure it's okay for a 13-year-old to get an abortion, so you can have Illinois. Planned Parenthood can recruit kids from other states any state in the country to come here to get an abortion, as long as they're 13 years old.
Speaker 1:Now, isn't it similar, Tom? The age Isn't it similar where a school and it's happening can start to transition a? Young child without parents' consent to. Where do we stand on that now as far as the law?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm not sure it's a. It's a little. It's a little foggy on that because they're the law says. We have a gordian knot of laws in illinois that are, that are, that wind up becoming very confusing. So you have a state law that may say one thing but the but there's a federal principle of parental rights that says something else. So you've got constitutional issues that get mixed up in here and it's become such a mess in Illinois that it is better for parents to homeschool their kids or have their kids in a private school where they can trust what the kids are being taught, rather than put them in public schools. Because public schools have this, just this mess of laws that they that they adhere to. Now, because there aren't any public schools in Illinois that are going to stand up to the to the state law and say we're not going to obey this state law because it conflicts with parental rights. There's no public institution in Illinois that's going to do that. That I know of.
Speaker 1:They just don't have the guts to stand up against them. Is it courage or belief, or is it funding also, or all of those things?
Speaker 2:All of those things. I mean part of it. Most of the funding for schools comes from the local. Local taxes, yeah, property taxes, yeah.
Speaker 1:So it just shows again the importance of when we're talking about the national election here, we don't forget about the local elections. Right here in Illinois, school boards are midterms, so they don't come up in November. They actually come up right before Easter break, which is spring break for kids, which is really purposely done again, because they know everybody's focused on spring break. We're going to go on vacation. Nobody's focused on the school boards and the teachers unions and all of these nefarious characters behind this know that no-transcript, can't they? It's, it's not, it's not difficult to do. So while we're worried about the national election, we also have to think about coming up again in the spring the local school board elections well, yeah, the, the teachers unions, these uh actually public sector unions out the.
Speaker 2:The people in public sector unions outnumber private sector unions something like 10 to 1. According to an article in the new york times recently that 90 of of the of union members in the united states are work for the government and that's no accident there.
Speaker 1:No, it's not. Look at the force that they have behind them and and, tom, I just we are funding that. You and I are funding that force.
Speaker 2:That's bringing you know much evil in the world. You know, and they and they provide, and they and they, they provide money to the campaigns of primarily Democrat lawmakers. Even the private sector is mostly, mostly goes to Democrats. The Teamsters Union the president of Teamsters Union was just complaining on a podcast a few days ago that they've spent $15 million on the Democrat Party in the last two years and only $300,000 on the Republicans. And the Democrats for the last 40 years have done nothing for them. They've been, they've really not not done anything for them, and the, the public sector unions, the teachers unions, the, you know, the they're actually teamsters who are, who work for the public sector, and so all of these different unions are getting together and they're providing millions of dollars in campaign for the Democrats and they keep these Democrats that are in office keep passing these laws like Title IX. I'll give an example In the spring there was a law that was introduced in Congress to prohibit men from playing on women's sports teams or women from playing on men's sports teams, basically to negate everything that was said in Title IX, to force the revision of Title IX.
Speaker 2:I don't think there was a single Democrat, there was no Democrat that voted in favor of that bill. There were 10 Democrats that didn't vote, but all of the rest of them voted against that bill. Now why is that? Why are there people in either party supporting the idea that you can be a man and play on a women's team, or that you can be a man and go to a women's prison, or that you can you can be a man and re, or a woman who comes into this country illegally and get a government paid for sex change operation. What kind of insanity is this? It confuses me. It makes my head spin.
Speaker 2:How does this affect a child? How does this affect a high school kid? How does it affect a young child? They, if I can say, if I can be in reality, if I can, right here before you today, declare that I am a woman and make you accept that, why can't I declare I'm a houseplant? How come, I can't declare myself to be anything, and that's exactly what's happening.
Speaker 1:People are redefining their own reality.
Speaker 2:And so a child says well, there is no reality. Well, how is that? You can't go through life not accepting reality yeah, yeah, well, you know, let's you.
Speaker 1:You can't, but we try, don't we? We try right, and? And the reality of this is is this spike in anxiety, depression. Look at everything that we do constantly. You know everything has consequences when we but here's the thing, tom, they don't care, and this is a very hard thing for some of us to hear. But this is what you have to understand that this is a force.
Speaker 1:And I know I know that I've said this before and people don't get it sometimes, but this is a spiritual warfare. This is a takedown of human beings. And how will I take down humanity? How will I take down human beings? I just have to twist and distort them, take away reality, take away their fundamental truths of who they are as human beings, their identity, their meaning and purpose in life, why we're created, male and female. I take away their chance for happiness and fulfillment. I distort what actual love is. Love is reduced to a feeling and then to sex. That's what all these kids are told. None of that is true. And so what am I doing?
Speaker 1:We have women today in their 30s and late 30s, going into their 40s, who are celebrating the fact that they've had abortions their whole life. They never got married and they're free to go out and party every day and this is a big deal on videos now. And you go, how sad is this. A woman in her late thirties with a you know a glass of champagne and you could tell she's, you know, half rocked already just partying and dancing and saying I am free, you know, and that he has to go home to nobody and no children, no grandchildren, no spouse. And that doesn't mean that you know every woman or man out there that's seeking, you know, children and blah, blah, blah has them.
Speaker 1:This is a tough environment for them to even find people, tom, I talk to young college people I did yesterday again all the time that are trying to find that one special person in their life. And they say it's nefarious, jack, what's happening on these college campuses that, especially for these young guys that I'm speaking to now, generation Z guys, that are waking up and saying there's got to be something more. So your point earlier, tom, about, yeah, this is not just young children, this is permeating and finding its way into high schools, to the colleges and all the way up into these women, and probably men too, you know, I'm sure, in their in their late 30s and 40s, finding out that, man, there's got to be more than this. What, what a terrible thing. To wake up, tom, when you're past the age of biological chance to even have children you know to, to wake up to this.
Speaker 2:Well, a lot of this began I mean, some of the early parts of this began with feminism, when they've been trying to erase the differences between men and women for how many decades now, that whatever a man can do, a woman can do better, or whatever.
Speaker 2:You know that kind of thing. Well, instead of looking at the complementarianism, the complementary function of a man and a woman in many different areas it isn't just in sexuality, it's in, you know, there are differences in temperament and personality between men and women. There are differences in the way the brain works between men and women. There are differences in the way the brain works between men and women, and in many ways, school for the last hundred years or more has been a very feminine-oriented kind of environment where guys, kids, boys like to learn by doing things and girls like to learn by hearing or reading or sitting or talking, and it's just a. So they've been trying to conform boys into a feminine style for so long that it's become normalized and now they're moving into the next stage of there is no difference between them at all.
Speaker 1:And the way that, as we kind of wind down here, tom, the way you sum this up is look, we've got social media, we've got the schools. We've got the literature out there. We've got the porn that we're reading kids in the schools. So this is coming on their phones, on the TVs. This is in Hollywood movies. This has been going on in all these shows. When you look at television shows today, it's very hard to find one that hasn't accepted these sexual ideologies.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1:And so this is the main tool. So we've got critical race theory that's one. We've got climate change you mentioned in here. That's another thing we're lying to kids about, but the main attack is on their innocence from a sexual standpoint, because this really rocks the essence of who we are. All these other things are damaging. To tell me that I'm a racist just because I'm born in a certain, with a certain skin, well, you know, tell me the climate is going to kill us all and we have to get rid of farms. They're told that we have to get rid of farms?
Speaker 2:Yeah right, they're bad things. You know, when I was a kid, I remember being taught in school you can't remember back then. I I remember being taught in school. You can't remember back then. I do remember some things back in the park, In addition to you know, if we get attacked by nuclear weapons, we're supposed to get underneath our desk at school.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's going to save us.
Speaker 2:Put your head in the sand and hope the rest of your body doesn't get If we're all of a sudden subject to a nuclear attack, get dropped, jump down under your desk oh, that's, that's going to be really good, yeah. But the thing that I remember as a kid was I. We were taught that if all of a sudden your clothes catch on fire, you have to stop drop and roll. Okay, do you remember that? Oh yeah, have to stop drop and roll Okay, do you remember that? Oh yeah, stop. If your clothes burst into flames, stop drop and roll, yeah. So I thought, oh, I'm good at that, I can stop drop and roll. But the thing that always stuck in my head was why would my clothes all of a sudden burst into flames?
Speaker 2:And they never did until you planted that idea would I be walking down the street all of a sudden, my clothes were first in the flames, and so, and I think, I think that, uh, it's because you planted a seed in some young boy's mind to to light your clothes on fire with this lighter that's why, yeah, so I, I. But the thing that I think of now is, having thought, that thought and I mean I was kind of obsessed with this at times I says why would my clothes all of a sudden burst?
Speaker 1:And I think it's it must be climate radical, climate change.
Speaker 2:What is going through these little children's mind when they said they only guessed whether you were a boy or a girl? They only guessed whether you were a boy or a girl. Sometime in the future you will be able to decide whether you are a boy, or you will discover whether you are a boy or a girl. I mean to me, if that was me, I would think you mean I don't know whether I'm a boy or a girl. Even I just think this is so horrible to be teaching children this kind of confusing concept.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Again. Anytime you walk away from the truth, ask yourself what is the truth? What is reality? Let's start there. You can go a long way just with that. What is reality? What is the truth? We're made for the truth, we're made for reality and we're made for authentic love, which is not a feeling. It's not just an act.
Speaker 2:It's much more than that, but they're even teaching in school today that there is no truth, that there's your truth and my truth and his truth and her truth. Kind of education is that that doesn't. There is a reality of truth. There is a truth. I I don't think that. I don't think that there can be any argument about whether there's something that's true or not well, here's here.
Speaker 1:Here's the main point. I mean, you're making the main point about all this. What they want to do, and what they're succeeding in doing, is making education into a strict opinion. We don't have to even teach the truth anymore, right? And what are we doing? Why do we need a school system that's not going to teach you the truth? Why do we go? Because we go for knowledge. We want knowledge, but we want knowledge of what. We want, knowledge of the truth. And if we're not going to do that, at a very basic level, the essence of who we are is created. Okay, when I say that to a young person, what you just said. And then what am I going to do in science, tom? What do I do with the science book that shows that, from the deepest essence of a human being, that you are biologically, scientifically, already, from the time you're in that first cell, that zygote, by the time you're initially exploded into being into life, you are already a male or a female.
Speaker 1:You are already on your way to developing. And it's, it's, it's amazing. So what do we do with that? What do we do with all these other subjects then, tom, that is there, is math really a reality? Is two and two really four, or can I make it into anything I want? And, and, man, this is no wonder my anxiety, depression and even suicidal thoughts are going up to the roof.
Speaker 2:Well, of course, and so the more they do this, and the sad thing is that there is a political party that has embraced that idea that there is no truth.
Speaker 1:And so that's where we want to start to end this. We started talking about politics and how do we choose? You have to choose a party that speaks the truth, and this is not easy today, because if all you've been listening to is MSNBC, you haven't got much truth. And I mean, Donald Trump was just at Madison Square Garden and he totally filled up Madison Square Garden and more people tried to get in there. The point it was filled even when you have people working against that. But at the end of the day, at the same time, you are having political hacks speaking about. It was a Nazi rally. It was a Nazi rally it was a Nazi rally.
Speaker 1:Now, when I look at Donald Trump and I look at Adolf Hitler, I mean there's no correlation. I mean, tom, it's so preposterous, but if you think that the adult now these aren't kids watching MSNBC, I mean they might be kids in their brains, but they're not actual kids, right? They're older and they're watching this propaganda and they actually believe it. Tom, what does that tell us about who we are as a people in this country right now? Well, see.
Speaker 2:Here's the thing this is the thing that people get confused about is that there's a truth that you can come up with, there's an approximation of truth that you can come up with by assembling a collection of facts and saying these facts mean this, and that is an approximation of truth. And what's happening in the news media is that they are using that approximation of truth incorrectly. They take a collection of facts and say well, this means that Trump is a fascist. That's just simply an analytical issue. What I'm talking about this issue, the party issue. There is a party that believes that truth is variable, and that is the Democrat Party. This is just the idea of a truth being non-existent, that there's your truth, my truth, his truth, that is the Democrat Party. My truth is that today I'm a girl, and if you don't acknowledge that, then you're going to go to jail.
Speaker 1:And I think that's what's going to happen. I think that if the democratic party takes, uh, full power here, you're going to see exactly that and and and. It's really something to think about, tom, but we're seeing that.
Speaker 2:We're seeing well, in england they just put that woman in jail for praying outside of a. Actually she wasn't.
Speaker 1:She was just standing outside of an abortion clinic there was a man same thing with a man right. There was a man that was. He was in the army at one time. You know he was a, he's a veteran and they, they just sentenced him to. I think he's getting sentenced to three years plus. I have to look that up again but he was silently praying silently praying he no rosary in his hand, no Bible, no nothing. They arrested him for silently praying in his head In his head, you know?
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh, my gosh, Tom, those are ridiculous things. That says that, that believes that they can pass a law that says that a biological male can be a woman if he says so, that is a negation of truth itself. This is has nothing to do with with facts that there is a. It is, it is.
Speaker 1:My gosh, you almost have to smile.
Speaker 2:Alternate reality that we're entering into it's, it's.
Speaker 1:It doesn't get any crazier if I'm gonna.
Speaker 1:I, I had mentioned this to you in in john chapter eight, and I think people should go back and and read this. You know I'm not going to be able to read all of it, but he's really talking about the truth. And then jesus said to the jews if you continue in my word, you are are truly my disciples. You will know the truth and the truth will set you free. Only in the truth are we set free. Anything else less than that we become bondage, and that's what Jesus says here. And they answered him. We are descendants of Abraham. We've never been in bondage to anyone and this is the populace walking around We've never been in bondage. How can you say you will be made free? Well, here he says.
Speaker 1:Jesus says truly, truly, I say to you everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin. And he goes on to say about this. And he said and this is really the crux of this he's talking about Satan here. And he said why do you not understand what I say? It's because you cannot bear to hear my word. You are of your father, the devil, and your will is to do the devil's, your father's, the devil's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning and has nothing to do with the truth, because there is no truth in him when he lies, he speaks according to his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
Speaker 1:But because I tell you the truth, you do not believe in me. Isn't that amazing, isn't it? I mean it really sums up what we're talking about here, doesn doesn't it?
Speaker 2:Yes, it does, Because there are objective truths that people have to acknowledge. And if we have people that want to lead this country that don't want to recognize objective truths think about a Supreme Court justice that can't even define what she is herself.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:And she certainly knows.
Speaker 1:She certainly, certainly knows, and she won't define it because of an ideology, because she's going to walk away from the truth. And this is really sad tom, when you know the truth and you are going to walk away in front of everybody. And and we still, we still confirmed her she is on the Supreme Court right now.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:And as a country, we affirmed her. Why? Because she's black, because she's a woman, because she falls and accepts these ideologies and because of the culture saying you have to follow the DEI religion now and it doesn't matter if you're competent, doesn't matter who you are. We have to fit this person into this thing and it's amazing. We all knew that this was preposterous not to know how to define a woman, and now she's going to define how the country looks at law. This is what we're going to come down to If we're not careful, man, it's not going to be a pretty picture here as the country declines very rapidly already.
Speaker 2:Well, we can see the consequences of it all around us. I mean, you can see it in that chart, the consequences of what's happening In the last 15 years the explosion in depression and anxiety among youth, the explosion of suicides among children. We're destroying ourselves.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, and this what you just said we're destroying ourselves. This is exactly the crux. If there's an enemy enemy that Jesus just said and he wants to destroy God, but he can't destroy God he comes after human beings created in the image and likeness of God, and then, to your point, it's men who cooperate with evil. Jesus' point you fell for the liar and the father of lies, so he was a murderer from the beginning, a liar and a murderer from the beginning.
Speaker 1:And so we are out to destroy ourselves if we fell for the lie, and this is why, tom, what we're talking about is so important. It is the essence of who we are. If we no longer seek the truth, we will destroy one another. This is sin, and we forget that it's not flesh and blood we're fighting against. These are the powers and the principalities, the spirit of the world, as St Paul would talk about in Ephesians 6.
Speaker 2:So, hey, last word is yours, brother, oh I think people need to look at what's really happening and start protecting children from these ideologies that are destroying them. One of the things parents should do for sure is to take the smartphones and laptops away from their kids. They shouldn't be on them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. And I'm afraid, tom, that if they don't go out and vote next week, on November 5th, and vote correctly for the truth, we are in. We're going to be in for a battle anyways, because even if. Trump gets in there, that battle's not over. I think it's just really beginning. But at least we have a foothold to bring the truth in, not to bring Trump in. To bring the truth in back into our everything, into the essence of who we are as human beings, into our food supplies common sense.
Speaker 2:The other day I liked Kevin O'Leary, Mr Wonderful, on Shark Tank or something.
Speaker 2:There was a couple of things he was talking about. He says when he looks at an executive, he wants an executive that can execute a plan, execute the policy, and when he looks for somebody to vote for a politician, he looks at policy, not party policy. And in the Republicans we have the right policy and somebody who can execute that policy. He's demonstrated to be able to execute the policy. In the Democrats we have a policy that is horrible. The policy is to identify a man as a woman if he wants to be, to allow men on women's sports teams, to allow the government to pay for sex change operations. Even the very idea that you can change your sex. That's something that's supported by the Democrats. And, of course, then we have somebody who wants to be chief executive that's never executed anything capably. The border policy that she was supposed to be in charge of was a disaster.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and let's not forget that the number one flank that they're running on is abortion, and so talk about murder from the very beginning.
Speaker 2:Hey Tom.
Speaker 1:God bless you Thanks for spending the time with us. Thanks everyone, thanks for joining us, bye-bye.